Adjust tiller asymmetrically

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balu69
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Adjust tiller asymmetrically

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Hi JL
The tiller is asymmetrical as far as I can see. In other words, the distance to 10, 30, 50 and 75 degrees is not the same. Assume that is there to be able to steer more sensitively.
Is it a big programming effort for you if the points of the tiller axis can also be defined in the configuration (e.g. with the trim axis, where there is a point for DN4, 0 and UP13.5 and this is also not symmetrical)
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Stephan

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Re: Adjust tiller asymmetrically

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I agree, taht we would really apreciate, if the Tiller axis could have something like a response curve. Actually the Tiller seems acting too much within the lower degrees. It´s actually like if the frontwheel is already at 45 degree when you turn the tiller just some degrees below 10
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Bernd

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Re: Adjust tiller asymmetrically

Post by dkreiskott »

Hi Stephan,
hi Bernd,

if I assume that you are using real tillers, then you could replace the linear potentiometer with a logarithmic potentiometer.
So the curve would change and should roughly correspond to the required effect?
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Dieter

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gillesaqsim
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Re: Adjust tiller asymmetrically

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HI
I 'm reading your post....and am interested in this topic. I too find that the response of the curve is a little violent at the start of the action on the potentiometer. but as proposed by Dieter, I do not think that a logarithmic can work knowing that at rest the potentiometer is normally in the middle of the stroke and that on either side of the stroke the log is not the response to our wish.
The answer, in my opinion, is a course adjustment made by software.
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Gilles
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Re: Adjust tiller asymmetrically

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or maybe the answer is to leave it like it is, because it is already non linear, and the result is close to the real aircraft.
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Jean Luc
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Re: Adjust tiller asymmetrically

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Hi
I opened a note (no. 0001787) in the JeeHell bugtracker and here is Jean Luc's answer:
This is already done. You don't need to adjust anything. If your tiller is calibrated correctly in fmgs config, output it not linear.
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Re: Adjust tiller asymmetrically

Post by dkreiskott »

gillesaqsim wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 2:58 pm but as proposed by Dieter, I do not think that a logarithmic can work knowing that at rest the potentiometer is normally in the middle of the stroke and that on either side of the stroke the log is not the response to our wish.
Hi Gilles,
that isn't correct what you say. On the market are LOG potentiometers that have a "S" curve. In this case this potentiometer has a middle position.
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Dieter

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Re: Adjust tiller asymmetrically

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I'm discovering it, so if it's true, take the test!
thank you for this information.
best regards
Gilles
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